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So the greatest was not Fitz. Jeffries in a fight to a finish may have beaten any or all, with the possible exception of Dempsey. But in these days of 15 rounds he would have been outpointed by Dempsey, Tunney and Louis, at least, because Jeff was not scientific. Burns was a great light-heavyweight but he was in his prime when defeated by Johnson Tommy was 27 so we can discard him. Johnson: A great number of people rate him as the greatest. With 31 k. Could his wonderful defense have kept Dempsey away? I doubt it.
Willard and Carnera can be dismissed together as brawn but no brain. Sharkey was k. Schmeling was k. Braddock was beaten too many times to be considered.
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Baer could have been the greatest if he had the temperament of Louis. But he was a clown and with this toughness and terrific hitting power, he would have gone down to a good boxer would could take it. Which leaves Dempsey, Tunney and Louis. What a fight between Dempsey and Louis! Louis, the perfect machine, but his comparative slow thinking may have overcome by the fast moving Dempsey; and Tunney would have been a thought and a punch in front of him. A fight between Louis and Johnson would have been disappointing.
But Joe, being the aggressor may have won on points. Certainly Johnson could not have k. Perhaps Louis ranks 3rd among the great. Tunney was a mastermind. He had a deal of confidence in himself and 3 years before he won the title, he outlined a plan whereby Dempsey could be defeated. Tunney adhered to that plan in when he beat Dempsey. He retired while in his prime and with a very imposing record. Brennan and Miske, so the chances are that Tunney, much superior to these could not have been k. The Long Count?
Dempsey himself admits that Tunney clearly understood the position and took full advantage of it and could have regained his feet seconds before he did. Could Dempsey have outpointed Tunney in ?
A boxer will always defeat a fighter, providing he can take it and Tunney could. So there you are fans. I select Tunney as the greatest ever. Do I hear a storm of protest? Well, I will stick my neck out further.
Let us hear your opinions please. Cmoyle , Sep 1, I think it is a bit of a leap of faith to have Tunney at No1 given his fairly thin heavyweight resume. It's actually interesting how many "old school" historians, or let's say, people that prefer old school fighters, rank Tunney extremely high. Often even beyond any point of a reasonable ranking.
Which is interesting, because Tunney's style was everything but old school. ChrisPontius , Sep 1, The greatest heavyweight from Sullivan to Louis is Louis of course! I think Tunney is a good bet to out point many old timers, and this includes Johnson, and Louis. Tunney to me is under valued and under rated these days.
But Floyd never actually challenged, he only toyed at negotiations with feints. A small Island in the Caribbean, where the soil is rich in minerals, and known as the land of spice, Dr. Brennan and Miske, so the chances are that Tunney, much superior to these could not have been k. The infamous Dempsey-Gibbons fight got Dempsey back in the ring, where he won a round decision. It was an injustice to Wills and to history.
Its too bad his resume is thin. We just don't know if he could hold of agressive body punchers such as a prime Dempsey or Jeffries. To defeat Tunney, I think you need to force him to fight, need quick feet to catch up to him, and some stamina. Out boxing Tunney would be difficult, though it should be noted that an older Jim Corbett astounded Tunney when they sparred together as older men, and it can be seen on flim.
I think the author misses the mark on Jeffires, as he was not far behind Corbett at all in the first fight, and was , 4Ko's vs Fitz and Corbett. To put Fitz or Corbett ahead makes little sense. Best guess is the author who wrote this probabaly saw Tunney mis-match title fight with down under fighter Tom Henney, and really did not see much of the odler fighters before him.
Mendoza , Sep 1,